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CCP Tuxford
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Posted - 2011.11.03 09:26:00 -
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Note that the version you have on SiSi is very raw. We've been working on it two programmers so we need to check things in so the other guy can work making us ship a pretty raw version of this. I'm currently working on a blog about this feature which should clear some things up.
Asayanami Dei wrote:
There should be a new grantable role for the corp bookmarks manegment. It would make it easier for the directors to be able to handle a new role, rather then juggle arround an existing role to make it work.
It would be cool if you can set access rights for different BMs folders.
We decided on a very simple role restriction. Creating new corp roles is very difficult because of the way they are implemented. One day we're going to have to take a step back and do something about that but not today I guess 
OR make it so that corp bookmarks can only be added to when uncloaked. Such would prevent cloaky scouts from providing the rest of the fleet a warpin. I suppose it depends on how the mechanics will work... BM straight to corp BM's... BM to personal and then move to corp... etc.
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I think I know what you're getting at. So basically a cloaked ship can create a bookmark near a fleet and the rest warp in there. I don't think it's that big of an issue as people can already warp to the cloaked ship anyway. Of course there could be something that I'm missing. The restriction is for server performance so having it instant isn't really up for debate anyway 
Asayanami Dei wrote:
with that periodic updating, could we get a timestamp as to when the folder last updated? This is less important if it ends up being only a 2 minute delay, but if it's a longer delay it would be really nice to know how out-of-date the folder is.
Sounds cool. It shouldn't be too out of date though. Its currently 5 minutes
Asayanami Dei wrote:
If at all possible, subfolders in the corp-bookmarks folder would be an awesome addition.
If you mean Corp Places -> My Folder -> My Bookmark then yes it's already coming
If you mean Corp Places -> My Folder -> My Subfolder -> My Bookmark then no. At least not this iteration
Asayanami Dei wrote:
Another idea would be to create a second tab under the Places tab (sub-tab) rather then a special folder, so you would have a Personal tab and a Corp tab under the places tab. I don't know how would that impact the ability of copying bookmarks there, since its impossible to drag&drop with that kind of setup. Perhaps a right click option like "send to Corp"?
It would make copying bookmarks very awkward. Once the new folder structure hits SiSi I hope you find this a lot more clear.
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CCP Tuxford
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Posted - 2011.11.03 09:26:00 -
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Asayanami Dei wrote:
The corp bookmark folder should be visible in the right-click menu in space, just like any other folder
they should show up there or at least they do for me.
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CCP Tuxford
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Posted - 2011.11.03 22:14:00 -
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jonnykefka wrote:
What about Corp Places > Corp subfolder > Corp BM? Not defined by each person, but by the people with the appropriate roles, and in the corp BM folder?
Yes this is what I meant. Basically what I'm trying to say is that we can have one level of folders for both personal and corporation bookmarks.
jonnykefka wrote:
Other thought: If the 5-minute delay is non-negotiable for technical reasons, then there is no reason to prohibit cloakies from copying BMs to the corp folder while cloaked. I was actually looking forward to being able to share BMs while cloaked as one of the big upgrades over copying the silly things to my cargohold. Requiring us to spend the extra 5-10 seconds decloaked at a safe-spot or midwarp to drag them from our BMs to the corp folder when there's a five-minute delay before the rest of the corp will get it anyways seems pointless.
I mentioned this whole issue of boosting scouts to a game designer and he wasn't really that stressed since we had the caching for 5 minutes (although he didn't want to commit to not being stressed about it later ). Yes making a 120km journey on going 250m/s takes 8 minutes but then again making a bookmark warping out and back in to the bookmark is way faster anyway. However the caching is 5 minutes so on average you will actually get the bookmarks 2.5 minutes later. Having this restricted by your cloaked state is very hard because, and excuse me for getting technical, the node we ask to copy the bookmarks is not the same as the one that the solar system is located on. However if needed then forcing a delay on the bookmarks to show up for other users is not that hard to do if we deem that necessary.
jonnykefka wrote:
Also, are BM folders going to become server-side by any chance? I realize I'm asking for whipped cream on an already awesome slice of cake, but if it's something you are planning to include (or if it's not on this round), we'd love to hear about it.
Having folders for corporations client side doesn't really make sense since I've heard that there are actually more than one character per corp (crazy right?). Since we're already creating a folder structure for corporation bookmarks to be stored on the DB it didn't make a lot of sense to not move your personal bookmark folders to the server as well.
A lot of people have been involved in this feature. Awesome as I may be then the real thanks should go to the guy that made this a priority. I'm really just the tool.
Note to self: Stop referring to self as a tool.
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CCP Tuxford
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Posted - 2011.11.04 09:12:00 -
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Jack Dant wrote:CCP Tuxford wrote:Having folders for corporations client side doesn't really make sense since I've heard that there are actually more than one character per corp (crazy right?). Since we're already creating a folder structure for corporation bookmarks to be stored on the DB it didn't make a lot of sense to not move your personal bookmark folders to the server as well. This sounds great, but how will the transition go? Will all our client-side folders dissapear on patch day, or be transferred?
Transferred.
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